Over the Side

In the wake of the recent buffoonery displayed and insults hurled at Hillary Clinton by nominally Catholic priest Reverend Michael Pfleger in the pulpit of Trinity United Church of "Christ," CNN reports that Michelle and Barack Obama have formally quit TUCC.

Says Ed Morrissey:

[This] shows Obama’s willingness to throw anyone over the side when the boat starts sinking. That won’t go over very well with his core supporters who have admired his loyalty to TUCC, who excused Wright by pointing out that he had retired, and who bought Obama’s explanation of the “wonderful community” and great works of TUCC. Is that now nothing more than a convenient lie?

Soon the two will behave almost as if they never belonged to the showcase church of Black Liberation Theology--as if the twenty year association never existed. And his apostles will buy it.

Watch and see.

UPDATE: Gateway Pundit watched the press conference and claims that Obama said this:

I will not denounce the church. It is not a church worthy of denouncing.

Now that's what I call a divorce!

INEVITABLE: Not Barack Obama sez:

I did not have spiritual relations with that church......Trinity United.

UPDATE: Always nice to come home to an Instalanche.

Comments

[Tully]

RE: "I did not have spiritual relations with that church"

ROFLMAO & almost-not-quite PMP

[doubleplusundead]

Gah, stupid Pfleger and stupid Chicago Archdiocese, Pfleger should have been sanctioned ages ago. Pfleger should have been kicked out of the priesthood after he made a death threat on that gunshop owner.

[AProudVeteran]

"I will not denounce the church. It is not a church worthy of denouncing."

I watched the video at Gateway Pundit - my take on that line is that he was saying the church hadn't done anything to be denounced for.

[gerri]

I think is sad that the Obamas felt it necessary to leave their church because of a guest speaker. Is he giving up his denomination as well? If so, he and Michelle truly have problems.
Un to now, I have been a big supporter of Sen. Obama, but if he's going to react everytime someone says sometime that he doesn't agree with, he will never get anything accomplished. His time spent will be putting out fires.
He,nor his appointed staff done anything or said anything wrong. There are negative ads directed at all of the candidates posted in the media and what the priest said is something being said in many communities and discussions.
I am now questioning Sen. Obama's judgment and decision making. I thought he was a much stronger man. I think he needs to take lessons from Sen. Clinton who doesn't back down for nothing.

[red]

G*d Damn Amerikkkka...Obama '08

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G*d Damn Amerikkkka...Obama '08

[Rose Maco]

I believe Obama meant to use the word "deserving" rather than "worthy". "It is not a church deserving of denouncing." That would make sense considering his first sentence in the quote.

[notropis]

"I think is sad that the Obamas felt it necessary to leave their church because of a guest speaker."

That's not why they left. That's not even why he said that they left.

And since that "guest speaker" is a long-time personal friend of Obama's, and a quarter-million-dollar recipient of Obama's earmark largesse, leaving T.U.C.C. doesn't help distance him from Fr. Pfleger.

Although it does begin to make one wonder if Jeremiah Wright has a point when he says that the white people won't let a black man become president. Seems Fr. Pfleger is doing his part to stop Obama.

[kcom]

"I believe Obama meant to use the word 'deserving' rather than 'worthy'. 'It is not a church deserving of denouncing.' That would make sense considering his first sentence in the quote."

Although when I originally read the quote I thought the same thing Baldilocks appears to have thought, I agree upon seeing the tape that that the kinder interpretation is the correct interpretation. And that just makes it one more example of the Master of Rhetoric not being able to make a clear point in public when not following a script. For a man defined by his alleged public speaking abilities, he doesn't do extemperaneous particularly well.

[baldilocks]

BO certainly has a knack for using the wrong word(s).

[Denny, Alaska]

The phrase "chickens coming home to roost" keeps drifting in and out of my political consciousness, but, nah, let's just let it go.

[DarkStar]

I wish there was this much furor when the Black preacher called Obama's mother all sort of racist and other "not nice" names and when he went on an anti-Black rant...

[baldilocks]

You mean Pastor Manning, Dark Star? There was. (I heard it on the Mark Levin show a couple of weeks back--Levin played it for entertainment value. I seem to recall the ridiculous phrase "long-legged pimp.")

However, that guy is just some random nut job. He's not ranting from the pulpit of any of the churches to which a candidate belongs. That's the difference.

[DarkStar]

I suppose your point is valid, but the speaker was a guest speaker, and what is intriguing to me is that many talking heads have said the same thing the speaker said. Meaning, that Hillary felt entitled to the Dem nomination until the Black man Obama had other ideas.

[Robert H]

"many talking heads have said the same thing the speaker said"

Exactly how many "talking heads" have called Clinton's continued candidacy an example of "white supremacy" in action?

"but the speaker was a guest speaker"

Who is a long term supporter of Obama, only just removed from the Obama campaign website. Not to mention his own church having been a long term recipient of Obama's earmark gifts of taxpayer funds.

Who was lauded by the new pastor {same as the old pastor} and warmly welcomed by the entire congregation prior to his remarks; and enthusiastically applauded during the entire disgusting diatribe.

It is utterly disingenuous to dismiss his rant as merely a "guest speaker", when the entire congregation went wild with joy over his remarks.

[DarkStar]

It is utterly disingenuous to dismiss his rant as merely a "guest speaker", when the entire congregation went wild with joy over his remarks

Hmmmmm....

There are many people who believe the Catholic Church is a cult or borders on being a cult or, at least, is not real Christianity. So, when pastors rant against the Catholic church, build a school, and become a standard stop on the presidential trail for people seeking conservative votes...

And since Obama wasn't there at the time, how can you assume he would have gone wild with applause?

Exactly how many "talking heads" have called Clinton's continued candidacy an example of "white supremacy" in action?

What's the difference between that comment and the talking heads saying Obama can't get the white vote when he is getting the white vote? Oh, I know, apparently they have it broken down by economic class and that is supposed to make the race baiting any better? As if "upper class" white voters are somehow not.... white?

And when the talking heads said Clinton assumed she would be the nominee until the Black man Obama stepped in, why, exactly, was the race of Obama being mentioned?

[Geoff]

Quite frankly, If every single press meeting of my campaign for president was met with questions beginning with "A preacher in your church said_______" Are you honestly going to tell me that you wouldn't try to distance yourself from those comments. He did this only after exhausting every other method of distancing himself from these comments.

The president shouldn't have to answer for the actions of every person they have ever known, that is not and should never be their job.

[Tully]

"Guest speaker" Pfleger has also been cited in the recent past by Obama as one of his spiritual mentors and advisors. Just as with Wright.

[Les Nessman]

"Although when I originally read the quote I thought the same thing Baldilocks appears to have thought, I agree upon seeing the tape that that the kinder interpretation is the correct interpretation. And that just makes it one more example of the Master of Rhetoric not being able to make a clear point in public when not following a script. For a man defined by his alleged public speaking abilities, he doesn't do extemperaneous particularly well."

Is it?
Or is it another example of Obambi saying things that the hearer can interpret any way they want?

Did he mean :
The church did nothing wrong, so they don't deserve to be condemned.
or
The church made a tiny mistake, so they don't deserve to be condemned.
or
The church is beneath contempt, so they don't even deserve me to waste my time to condemn them.

(shrug) Who knows what he meant? He worded it to mean whatever you want it to mean.
That is Obambi in a nutshell.

[rabidfox]

Geoff, et.al. Because of Mr. Obama's very thin number of accomplishments, very little is know of what his real positions are. "Hope and Change" just don't do it after the rally is over. Not having a real record, the next best thing to do is to look at with whom he choses to associate himself. That's when things start getting scary.

[Ron J]

So what if he quits his church? What are his core beliefs? You don't lay down with dogs for 20 years and not get up with some fleas. How does BO really feel about America? Democrats seem willing to take a chance here...

[Lee Coles]

Would've been cool if he'd dismissed the sin, not the sinner, but he has no margin of error.